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I caught a few minutes of one of those morning news shows earlier this week. I was intrigued by the flash of a book, which was titled "Do I Look Fat in This?" Apparently, the author of this book was about to be interviewed. So, I topped off my coffee and got out my notepad.
Now, I'll preface this by making it clear that I did not read this book. I'm certainly not bashing the author for her writing style. I also, upon research, learned that she has recovered from some sort of eating disorder. So, bravo on that, Ms. Weiner. But based on what I heard in this interview, despite all her apparent life lessons, Jessica Weiner is a sorely misguided fat woman. You see, she was explaining to her interviewer, an Anne Curry type, that women shouldn't focus on their weight, but should focus on their inner beings, their spirits, blah blah blah. Furthermore, she was frustrated by the tendency of the public at large to be critical of those who are over weight. 
Simply because one was fat does not mean that she is unhealthy, because evidently health also includes whether you call your mother and how often you are honest.
The conversation went on to discuss how the word "fat" is the new f-bomb–nothing new to my ears at least. But Ms. Weiner was upholding this sentiment, not discouraging it. She thought that people should mind their own business, see beyond the cellulite. Translated, she basically condones disillusionment and dishonesty.
So, I pose the following for you to contemplate, Ms. Weiner:
1. Do you blame your obesity on genetics? Or does the excessive eating and lack of rigorous exercise have anything to do with it?
2. Why is the word "fat" all that powerful? Don't we as individuals have the ability to do away with that stigma? Further, if you really thought that big was beautiful, why not embrace this word?
3. Are you eating that fruit pie because you feel it will better yourself or does lack of self-control have anything to do with it? I suppose the same question could be posed for the Chunky Monkey, the Chili's Build-A-Burger, and various chocolate and salty snacks.
4. Having the world enable you to deny your problem with proper eating and excercise…does all that help you feel like a 'healthy person'…you know, honest and all that?
5. Wouldn't it be a smart idea to encourage girls to be healthy physically as well as mentally? Are we too lazy in this country to tackle those things at once?
6. If you have the energy and time to complain that you are fat, you certainly have the time and energy to fucking do something about it. And, no, I am not talking about sitting around with a circle of fellow complainers and toss some positive "love me and my fat" messages.
7. What is with the victimology? Perpetuating the "big is beautiful" mentality is only going to drive people further into turmoil. Shouldn't you actually be helping them and not just making them feel better?
8. If you're fat, this does not make you a bad person. It does, however, publically demonstrate that you have at least one major issue to work on. Why are we exerting so much energy in a counterproductive manner?
9. I could stand to lose about 20 pounds, just so you know. And I do not feel like a poor, battered woman when someone points this out to me, whether that be subtly or straightforward. Rather, it reminds me that I need to get motivated.
10. This thought process, likely single-handedly, is behind this weight problem. What ever happened to tough love? Why is the world full of a bunch of fucking sissies?
Take your time on getting back to me. I'm sure you're a busy woman.
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Yes, You Do Look Fat in That
What is the Chili’s Build a Burger? That sounds delicious!
What is the Chili’s Build a Burger? That sounds delicious!
Fat is complex. There are women in my family who eat right, do exercise, and are still heavier than the “guidelines” suggest.
I don’t know about this woman whose interview you saw, but I do know that fat is a complex topic in a society increasingly focused on skinny, to the detriment of all those who for whatever reason, can’t look like an anorexic scarecrow.
You’re verging on ugly judgmentalism yourself there, making yourself less tolerable than the woman you’re slagging.
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It’s not that people are so thin these days, it’s that morbid obesity is becoming an epidemic on this continent. I honestly don’t mind women who are “fatter” than people think is normal, because they ARE the normal ones. I do, however, HATE when fat girls bitch about it being genetics and they can’t help being over weight despite exercise and diet. Go to the doctor - they have many more options available to you to help you lose the weight you want. Much of the time it’s without surgery. It’s not like people don’t have a frickin’ choice in the matter.
Well put.
I just don’t understand when we stopped being responsible for our lifestyle choices or what we put in our bodies.
Dejah,
Yes, fat is a complex…which means that we have the ability to get the fuck over it. If you’re healthy, exercise, and are within the medical guideline’s suggested weight bracket, but you still feel fat, it’s easier to blame society. We have just as much responsibility for how others make us feel…plus, that’s the only variable in the equation that you can control. So why whine? Why waste your energey? You’re in control of your life.
That, I think, is being empowering, not judgemental. And that’s all I’m getting at. My snide remarks were more toward the woman that is encouraging exactly the opposite.
Let me be clear that I’m not necessarily attacking fat people. I’m attacking a mentality that is plaguing more than one aspect of American society, weight problems just being one of them.
One of my favorite quotes EVER! “Does my fat ass make my ass look fat?” Elementary, my Dear Watson. Mine and yours both. Unfortunately, unlike your spirit etc. fat is indeed worn on the outside. So for Ms. Weiner, my advice is… if you don’t have a problem with your size, don’t let other people’s problem become yours. If you have a problem with it, do something about it! See how simple life is?
I wish my girlfriend could learn english just to let her read this article.
She’s the kind of girl who could go on for weeks eating nothing for lunch and dinner, while stuffing herself on ice-creams, french fries, and croissant. And still crying out loud “i’m eating nothing, but still keep getting fatter, why?”.
You just need to keep a grasp of control on your own life, not lieing to yourself on how hard you are trying.
Yours is exactly my point of view. Jenna, i’ll be quoting your every word!
FUCK YOU! this post enfuriates me….to the point that i will not visit this site again (well…ok, with the exception to read lo’s rant…cuz she’s my bud and i love her shit and she’s not a judgmental asshole like you). there are so many things i find vile about this post. and i know that writing this little lamo response will probably wrinkle the feathers of your little online army (which, i remind you, statistics tell us are likely among the ranks of those despicable FAT LAZY GROSS WHINY WOMEN you hate so much…nice huh?)….but whatever, i just can’t help myself. i guess what i find funniest is you end your shitty cyberpace hating session with this fucking lame “don’t get me wrong” bit, “i could stand to lose ten pounds myself” nonsense…as if that somehow makes what you’ve said less hurtful or less ignorant or whatever. the bottom line is, you stupid fuck, that for women who really struggly with there weight…i mean REALLY struggle with it…it is REALLY FUCKING hard to lose one pound….REALLY FUCKING HARD. they can bust their ass (whatever that means TO THEM), KILLING THEMSELVES, for nothing…maybe a pound or two, if they’re lucky….while those around them seem to be doing it with ease….as if its nothing. they can look at other people and see them lose 5-10 pounds like its nothing, but literally are killing themselves to hit 2 or 3 pounds. and fuckers like you sit back and bitch and moan and tell them to suck it up and work harder or to “own their issue” or whatever…but why not stop fucking judging others by your own lame ass standards you assshole. god damn. its easy for you…its easy for a lot of people…but its not for them. i’ve struggled all my life with my weight. i could also stand to lose 15 or 20 pounds, and yeah its generally, given the time and dedication, pretty easy for me to do so. but my entire life i’ve sat by and watched my mother struggle with her weight on a whole other level. i watch the way people like you look at her. i’ve watched the way she looks at herself. i see how it hurts her. i watch as she tries so fucking hard to lose the weight. to the point where she breaks down in tears. how when she goes out to dinner she never eats - never fucking eats a thing…because she’s so self-conscious…as if putting even one bite of food in her mouth makes her seem like a fat lazy cow. its people like YOU, you stupid ass mutherfucker…god damn i’m so mad right now….its people LIKE YOU that make people like my mother and MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of women out there feel ugly, and unimportant, and unworthy. YOU are what i hate. i hope that you are proud of your little post…i hope it made you happy. maybe i will check in next week…maybe we can continue the hate….hell yeah, why don’t we bash others less fortunate….fuck yeah, let’s start in on fags and niggers….that’d be fun….oh wait, you don’t like the “n” word? come on now, why not? there’s no reasone to continue to condone disillusionment and dishonesty right?
You just let your own personal condition sway how you read my post. Obviously, you misunderstood what I was saying. Since, alas, you’ve given up on this site (’cept for Lo), you won’t be reading this, I guess, but I’m responding anyway.
You’ve actually helped to prove my point with your attitude and fury. I never once slammed on fat people, nor did I slam on those that are actively working to help themselves. In fact, I was working the opposite, which would be clear if you settle yourself and re-read. Those who whine and perpetuate the problem are making it worse for those actually suffering a plight.
It’s not that I didn’t expect an angry reply here, but, like I said, you’ve let your personal experience and pain for your mother’s situation completely blind yourself to the issue at hand. That’s a dangerous place to be.
Maybe you’re right? Maybe I did let my “personal experience and pain” for my mother’s situation “completely blind” me of the “issue at hand.” Because, yeah, thats like totally a “dangerous” position - one must always avoid appreciation of those less fortunate….human decency was sooooo 7 years ago….thus, here I go….I’m topping of MY coffee and getting out my notepad….
“Jessica Weiner is a sorely misguided fat woman” = yup, I totally read this one wrong….the first time I read it I actually thought you were being just a tad bit impetuous and, oh yeah, inconsiderate. But, I guess I understand it now….I mean, so yeah, you didn’t actually read her book, or take the time to appreciate her experience (although I’m sure she’ll enjoy your kudos on kicking the eating disorder)…but, obviously you’re a busy woman and didn’t have time for that. Otherwise you would have already gotten your fat ass off the couch and lost those extra 20 pounds your lugging around right???
“Or does the excessive eating and lack of rigorous exercise have anything to do with it?”= here again, the first time I read it I thought you were being profoundly prejudicial, and, oh yeah, inconsiderate…clearly I was wrong….
“Why is the word ‘fat’ all that powerful? “= I don’t know, maybe because its hurtful to a lot of people….but I guess you’re right….why don’t we just “embrace” labels….I mean, let’s fact it…“developmentally challenged” people are just fucking retards right? And if you’re gay….just face it, you’re a fucking fag, or a carpet-muncher, or a dyke….and if you’re a jew, you’re probably a penny pinching lawyer and you should know it….yeah, let’s just call it like we see it I’m mean you’re right….”why is the world full of a bunch of fucking sissies?”
“Are you eating that fruit pie because you feel it will better yourself or does lack of self-control have anything to do with it?” = you’re right….everyone who is fat is lazy and eats too much….sorry, I thought that it was actually a well-documented genetic predisposition….oh well, what the fuck does the american medical association know anyway? .I mean, afterall, you write for girlspoke!
“If you have the energy and time to complain that you are fat, you certainly have the time and energy to fucking do something about it.” = seriously? I mean what the fuck is wrong with these fucking fat asses? They whine about jobs, and kids, and responsibilities, and enjoying life, and loving themselves, and being okay with themselves…..clearly they’re delusional….getting skinny is a priority…THE PRIORITY right? I mean they sit there and walk around all day “publically demonstrating” this “major issue” and its just disgusting and I can’t stand it anymore…its like totally ruining my life!
“What is with the victimology?” = whiney bitches right?!?!? how dare this fat woman go on tv and talk about having a hard time with her weight and trying to maybe reach out to someone else who understands her?
“I do not feel like a poor, battered woman” = that’s probably because you’re a nasty old bitch….
What ever happened to tough love? = I’ve always been more a fan of compassion…
oh wow…you’re so right….the re-read made me feel so much better….
You still haven’t lost the bitterness, but if you’d like to continue this in a logical, intelligent conversation, feel free to email me any time! I’d like to address some of the things you’ve mentioned, but since this seems more personal than anything else, we can take it to that realm. It’s jenna at girlspoke dot com.
This is hilarious. You write a huge, judgemental post filled with the kind of vitirol bloggers love to throw around to fire up the masses and bring attention to their blog, and then when you’re called on it, you accuse the commenter of being personal and bitter and move the conversation away from here, because there obviously wasn’t any bitterness in the original post and your entire post wasn’t an assault on things that are very personal. From where I’m sitting (on my relatively fit ass), you look like an ass, a big fat judgemental ass.
If you think I wrote this for attention, you obviously don’t know the site. As for the commentary from Ms. Kimana, well, I never denied that I was being judgemental. I certainly weighed the pros and cons before posting and knew some people would be offended; I’m actually not the moron you make me out to be. But Kimana’s infuriated dialogue is certainly not a good starting ground for conversation, most would agree. As for moving it out of sight, that didn’t happen anyway since she apparently only wanted a public battle? Not sure what the logic is there.
As I see it, my logical points seemed to have been lost in my snarky tone…something that, if you read my other posts, is part of my style. Next time I know to make my points without the sarcasm. Either way, I stand by all of them; and I’ll continue to defend them as long as people want to come on by and try to shoot down logic with more anger.
This is a blog that does not revolve around me, so my invitation remains open for anyone that would like to email me to continue the debate.
Jenna at girlspoke dot com.
you have yet to make one single even psuedo-valid point which in any way redeems your post. so, no, i don’t think it’s necessary to “continue the debate” in a private forum because all you’ve shown me here is that you are a fucking moron….if there are enough “pros” in your “logic” to somehow rationalize what is nothing more than a big-giant-fat-sack of hurtful shit then i’d love to hear it….HERE….and it appears other would like to as well. YOU are the one that felt that this topic was fit for a public forum…now back it up you spineless piece of shit. you are such a fucking coward it kills me.
Lordy, kimono. Could we please just agree to fucking disagree here? You’re getting tiresome. The only thing that would make you happy at this point is if I were to retract my statement and dedicate my next 15 posts to your public apology and my self-deprecation, no?
Well, guess what? That’s not going to happen. So let’s let this go, eh? Am I seriously this important to you? I doubt it. I’m assuming it’s the topic. So why don’t you use this energy to spread your word in a more open forum than the comments section of my “big-giant-fat-sack of hurtful shit” post.
And to explain. Again…third time is it?
I offered to continue this via email so that you’d possibly settle yourself. Obviously, this is not going to happen without 1. my suicide or 2. intense medication on your part.
This is where I work. I’m not going to get into a pissing match with you in the comments section. Grow up. It offended you. We ALL get it. I really hope you enjoy exerting the effort and stress it takes to hate me; I’m sure there are lots you can commiserate with.
Please note that I’ll be reading, but immediately dismissing, any further posts of yours.
Love, Jenna